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[Wikimedia-l] Information on "Multiple failed attempts to log in" emails
John Bennett
2018-05-04 00:27:16 UTC
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Hello,

Many of you may have been receiving emails in the last 24 hours warning you
of "Multiple failed attempts to log in" with your account. I wanted to let
you know that the Wikimedia Foundation's Security team is aware of the
situation, and working with others in the organization on steps to decrease
the success of attacks like these.

The exact source is not yet known, but it is not originating from our
systems. That means it is an external effort to gain unauthorized access to
random accounts. These types of efforts are increasingly common for
websites of our reach. A vast majority of these attempts have been
unsuccessful, and we are reaching out personally to the small number of
accounts which we believe have been compromised.

While we are constantly looking at improvements to our security systems and
processes to offset the impact of malicious efforts such as these, the best
method of prevention continues to be the steps each of you take to
safeguard your accounts. Because of this, we have taken steps in the past
to support things like stronger password requirements,[1] and we continue
to encourage everyone to take some routine steps to maintain a secure
computer and account. That includes regularly changing your passwords,[2]
actively running antivirus software on your systems, and keeping your
system software up to date.

My team will continue to investigate this incident, and report back if we
notice any concerning changes. If you have any questions, please contact
the Support and Safety team (susa{{@}}wikimedia.org).

John Bennett
Director of Security, Wikimedia Foundation

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Password_strength_requirements
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ChangePassword
2018-05-04 09:40:41 UTC
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Pine W
2018-05-06 05:23:52 UTC
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Thanks, John. 
Fae, I suggest that we let the WMF folks who are working on this issue extinguish the current fire before asking them to write a report about a previous one. 
I agree that the report about the previous incident is overdue. Perhaps as the current situation becomes calmer (updated metrics and news would be nice to have on the public Phab tickets) some staff can be moved off of the front line and back to the archives.
Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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Nathan
2018-05-06 21:24:06 UTC
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I get hundreds of these a year (my user name, Nathan, seems to be a popular
target). It would nice to be able to use some sort of multi-factor
authentication, which is actually supported by OAUTH. However, it seems
most projects (including en.wp) restrict use to accounts with elevated
rights. Can anyone explain why these tools can't be made more widely
accessible?
Post by Pine W
Thanks, John.
Fae, I suggest that we let the WMF folks who are working on this issue
extinguish the current fire before asking them to write a report about a
previous one.
I agree that the report about the previous incident is overdue. Perhaps as
the current situation becomes calmer (updated metrics and news would be
nice to have on the public Phab tickets) some staff can be moved off of the
front line and back to the archives.
Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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Shlomi Fish
2018-05-07 11:56:09 UTC
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On Thu, 3 May 2018 19:27:16 -0500
Post by John Bennett
Hello,
Many of you may have been receiving emails in the last 24 hours warning you
of "Multiple failed attempts to log in" with your account. I wanted to let
you know that the Wikimedia Foundation's Security team is aware of the
situation, and working with others in the organization on steps to decrease
the success of attacks like these.
The exact source is not yet known, but it is not originating from our
systems. That means it is an external effort to gain unauthorized access to
random accounts. These types of efforts are increasingly common for
websites of our reach. A vast majority of these attempts have been
unsuccessful, and we are reaching out personally to the small number of
accounts which we believe have been compromised.
While we are constantly looking at improvements to our security systems and
processes to offset the impact of malicious efforts such as these, the best
method of prevention continues to be the steps each of you take to
safeguard your accounts. Because of this, we have taken steps in the past
to support things like stronger password requirements,[1] and we continue
to encourage everyone to take some routine steps to maintain a secure
computer and account. That includes regularly changing your passwords,[2]
actively running antivirus software on your systems, and keeping your
system software up to date.
From my experience, anti-virus programs usually do more harm than good. For
example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_AntiVirus recently blocked my
entire shlomifish.org domain because it apparently misclassified an executable
download as problematic (and it was built from source using
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMake and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppVeyor
so it is unlikely that that is the case.). MS Windows' poor resistance to
malware and the fact that Windows Update is so dysfunctional (see
http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/bits/facts/Windows-Update/ ) are the reasons
why I cannot recommend running it as a desktop, and instead one should use
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux#Desktop - desktop linux or similar.

A little off topic perhaps, but needs to be said.
Post by John Bennett
My team will continue to investigate this incident, and report back if we
notice any concerning changes. If you have any questions, please contact
John Bennett
Director of Security, Wikimedia Foundation
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Password_strength_requirements
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ChangePassword
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Eduardo Testart
2018-05-07 13:20:22 UTC
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Shlomi,

I believe that the problem is with your particular brand of antivirus,
eventhough they all block a bit more or less to prevent certain risks.

Nevertheless, making an extrapolation to every antivirus from the
experience with only one brand, and concluding "they do more harm than
good" based on that, seems a bit off.


Cheers!
I am also a Linux advocate, and have been so for years (decades?). That
been said, I imagine that there are still more people using Windows XP than
there are people using Linux. Last time I checked (october 2017) it was
something like 5% using XP and less than 1% using linux, all distros
included. We can safely predict that virus outvreaks will be a problem for
linux once it reaches 5% or 10% market share...
Gabe
I have been a Linux advocate for almost a decade now and from 'my past
experience', I can tell you have opened a topic of a huge discussion
about
people should switch to Linux Desktops (which is off-topic here). But I
respectfully disagree with your statement, "anti-virus programs usually
do
more harm than good".
From a conservative viewpoint, some protection is still better to have
than
no protection at all. And the example you gave here, an anti-virus
mistakenly classified your domain as a potential threat, makes a weaker
point. By a few mistakes, we cannot cancel out a million of other
successes. A false alarm is yet favourable than no alarm at all.
---
Shabab Mustafa
President
Wikimedia Bangladesh

Post by Shlomi Fish
On Thu, 3 May 2018 19:27:16 -0500
Post by John Bennett
Hello,
Many of you may have been receiving emails in the last 24 hours
warning
Post by Shlomi Fish
you
Post by John Bennett
of "Multiple failed attempts to log in" with your account. I wanted
to
Post by Shlomi Fish
let
Post by John Bennett
you know that the Wikimedia Foundation's Security team is aware of
the
Post by Shlomi Fish
Post by John Bennett
situation, and working with others in the organization on steps to
decrease
Post by John Bennett
the success of attacks like these.
The exact source is not yet known, but it is not originating from our
systems. That means it is an external effort to gain unauthorized
access
Post by Shlomi Fish
to
Post by John Bennett
random accounts. These types of efforts are increasingly common for
websites of our reach. A vast majority of these attempts have been
unsuccessful, and we are reaching out personally to the small number
of
Post by Shlomi Fish
Post by John Bennett
accounts which we believe have been compromised.
While we are constantly looking at improvements to our security
systems
Post by Shlomi Fish
and
Post by John Bennett
processes to offset the impact of malicious efforts such as these,
the
Post by Shlomi Fish
best
Post by John Bennett
method of prevention continues to be the steps each of you take to
safeguard your accounts. Because of this, we have taken steps in the
past
Post by Shlomi Fish
Post by John Bennett
to support things like stronger password requirements,[1] and we
continue
Post by Shlomi Fish
Post by John Bennett
to encourage everyone to take some routine steps to maintain a secure
computer and account. That includes regularly changing your
passwords,[2]
Post by Shlomi Fish
Post by John Bennett
actively running antivirus software on your systems, and keeping your
system software up to date.
From my experience, anti-virus programs usually do more harm than good.
For
Post by Shlomi Fish
example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_AntiVirus recently
blocked
Post by Shlomi Fish
my
entire shlomifish.org domain because it apparently misclassified an executable
download as problematic (and it was built from source using
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMake and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppVeyor
so it is unlikely that that is the case.). MS Windows' poor resistance
to
Post by Shlomi Fish
malware and the fact that Windows Update is so dysfunctional (see
http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/bits/facts/Windows-Update/ ) are the reasons
why I cannot recommend running it as a desktop, and instead one should
use
Post by Shlomi Fish
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux#Desktop - desktop linux or
similar.
Post by Shlomi Fish
A little off topic perhaps, but needs to be said.
Post by John Bennett
My team will continue to investigate this incident, and report back
if
we
Post by Shlomi Fish
Post by John Bennett
notice any concerning changes. If you have any questions, please
contact
Post by Shlomi Fish
Post by John Bennett
John Bennett
Director of Security, Wikimedia Foundation
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Password_strength_requirements
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ChangePassword
_______________________________________________
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Shlomi Fish
2018-05-07 14:56:54 UTC
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Hi,

On Mon, 07 May 2018 13:20:22 +0000
Post by Eduardo Testart
Shlomi,
I believe that the problem is with your particular brand of antivirus,
eventhough they all block a bit more or less to prevent certain risks.
Nevertheless, making an extrapolation to every antivirus from the
experience with only one brand, and concluding "they do more harm than
good" based on that, seems a bit off.
this was just one example. I have heard of many similar problems with others.
Just try subscribing to gimp-user ( https://www.gimp.org/mail_lists.html ) or
chatting on freenode for a while and you will see.
Post by Eduardo Testart
Cheers!
I am also a Linux advocate, and have been so for years (decades?). That
been said, I imagine that there are still more people using Windows XP than
there are people using Linux. Last time I checked (october 2017) it was
something like 5% using XP and less than 1% using linux, all distros
included. We can safely predict that virus outvreaks will be a problem for
linux once it reaches 5% or 10% market share...
Gabe
I have been a Linux advocate for almost a decade now and from 'my past
experience', I can tell you have opened a topic of a huge discussion
about
people should switch to Linux Desktops (which is off-topic here). But I
respectfully disagree with your statement, "anti-virus programs usually
do
more harm than good".
From a conservative viewpoint, some protection is still better to have
than
no protection at all. And the example you gave here, an anti-virus
mistakenly classified your domain as a potential threat, makes a weaker
point. By a few mistakes, we cannot cancel out a million of other
successes. A false alarm is yet favourable than no alarm at all.
---
Shabab Mustafa
President
Wikimedia Bangladesh

Post by Shlomi Fish
On Thu, 3 May 2018 19:27:16 -0500
Post by John Bennett
Hello,
Many of you may have been receiving emails in the last 24 hours
warning
Post by Shlomi Fish
you
Post by John Bennett
of "Multiple failed attempts to log in" with your account. I wanted
to
Post by Shlomi Fish
let
Post by John Bennett
you know that the Wikimedia Foundation's Security team is aware of
the
Post by Shlomi Fish
Post by John Bennett
situation, and working with others in the organization on steps to
decrease
Post by John Bennett
the success of attacks like these.
The exact source is not yet known, but it is not originating from our
systems. That means it is an external effort to gain unauthorized
access
Post by Shlomi Fish
to
Post by John Bennett
random accounts. These types of efforts are increasingly common for
websites of our reach. A vast majority of these attempts have been
unsuccessful, and we are reaching out personally to the small number
of
Post by Shlomi Fish
Post by John Bennett
accounts which we believe have been compromised.
While we are constantly looking at improvements to our security
systems
Post by Shlomi Fish
and
Post by John Bennett
processes to offset the impact of malicious efforts such as these,
the
Post by Shlomi Fish
best
Post by John Bennett
method of prevention continues to be the steps each of you take to
safeguard your accounts. Because of this, we have taken steps in the
past
Post by Shlomi Fish
Post by John Bennett
to support things like stronger password requirements,[1] and we
continue
Post by Shlomi Fish
Post by John Bennett
to encourage everyone to take some routine steps to maintain a secure
computer and account. That includes regularly changing your
passwords,[2]
Post by Shlomi Fish
Post by John Bennett
actively running antivirus software on your systems, and keeping your
system software up to date.
From my experience, anti-virus programs usually do more harm than good.
For
Post by Shlomi Fish
example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_AntiVirus recently
blocked
Post by Shlomi Fish
my
entire shlomifish.org domain because it apparently misclassified an executable
download as problematic (and it was built from source using
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMake and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppVeyor
so it is unlikely that that is the case.). MS Windows' poor resistance
to
Post by Shlomi Fish
malware and the fact that Windows Update is so dysfunctional (see
http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/bits/facts/Windows-Update/ ) are the reasons
why I cannot recommend running it as a desktop, and instead one should
use
Post by Shlomi Fish
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux#Desktop - desktop linux or
similar.
Post by Shlomi Fish
A little off topic perhaps, but needs to be said.
Post by John Bennett
My team will continue to investigate this incident, and report back
if
we
Post by Shlomi Fish
Post by John Bennett
notice any concerning changes. If you have any questions, please
contact
Post by Shlomi Fish
Post by John Bennett
John Bennett
Director of Security, Wikimedia Foundation
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Password_strength_requirements
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ChangePassword
_______________________________________________
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Shlomi Fish
2018-05-07 15:09:27 UTC
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Hi Gabriel,

On Mon, 7 May 2018 14:02:44 +0100
I am also a Linux advocate, and have been so for years (decades?). That
been said, I imagine that there are still more people using Windows XP than
there are people using Linux. Last time I checked (october 2017) it was
something like 5% using XP and less than 1% using linux, all distros
included. We can safely predict that virus outvreaks will be a problem for
linux once it reaches 5% or 10% market share...
Most linux viruses have never outbroke and never caused much harm. Linux can be
susceptible to other forms of malware such as worms or rootkits, but it hasyet
to exhibit a large scale virus epidemic and it isnt because it wasn't tried.
Linux is an attractive target because many servers run on it. See also
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=linux+viruses&ia=web

Regards,

Shlomi
Gabe
I have been a Linux advocate for almost a decade now and from 'my past
experience', I can tell you have opened a topic of a huge discussion about
people should switch to Linux Desktops (which is off-topic here). But I
respectfully disagree with your statement, "anti-virus programs usually do
more harm than good".
From a conservative viewpoint, some protection is still better to have than
no protection at all. And the example you gave here, an anti-virus
mistakenly classified your domain as a potential threat, makes a weaker
point. By a few mistakes, we cannot cancel out a million of other
successes. A false alarm is yet favourable than no alarm at all.
---
Shabab Mustafa
President
Wikimedia Bangladesh

Post by Shlomi Fish
On Thu, 3 May 2018 19:27:16 -0500
Post by John Bennett
Hello,
Many of you may have been receiving emails in the last 24 hours
warning
you
Post by John Bennett
of "Multiple failed attempts to log in" with your account. I wanted to
let
Post by John Bennett
you know that the Wikimedia Foundation's Security team is aware of the
situation, and working with others in the organization on steps to
decrease
Post by John Bennett
the success of attacks like these.
The exact source is not yet known, but it is not originating from our
systems. That means it is an external effort to gain unauthorized
access
Post by Shlomi Fish
to
Post by John Bennett
random accounts. These types of efforts are increasingly common for
websites of our reach. A vast majority of these attempts have been
unsuccessful, and we are reaching out personally to the small number of
accounts which we believe have been compromised.
While we are constantly looking at improvements to our security
systems
and
Post by John Bennett
processes to offset the impact of malicious efforts such as these, the
best
Post by John Bennett
method of prevention continues to be the steps each of you take to
safeguard your accounts. Because of this, we have taken steps in the
past
Post by Shlomi Fish
Post by John Bennett
to support things like stronger password requirements,[1] and we
continue
Post by Shlomi Fish
Post by John Bennett
to encourage everyone to take some routine steps to maintain a secure
computer and account. That includes regularly changing your
passwords,[2]
Post by Shlomi Fish
Post by John Bennett
actively running antivirus software on your systems, and keeping your
system software up to date.
From my experience, anti-virus programs usually do more harm than good.
For
Post by Shlomi Fish
example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_AntiVirus recently blocked my
entire shlomifish.org domain because it apparently misclassified an executable
download as problematic (and it was built from source using
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMake and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppVeyor
so it is unlikely that that is the case.). MS Windows' poor resistance to
malware and the fact that Windows Update is so dysfunctional (see
http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/bits/facts/Windows-Update/ ) are the reasons
why I cannot recommend running it as a desktop, and instead one should
use
Post by Shlomi Fish
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux#Desktop - desktop linux or similar.
A little off topic perhaps, but needs to be said.
Post by John Bennett
My team will continue to investigate this incident, and report back if
we
Post by Shlomi Fish
Post by John Bennett
notice any concerning changes. If you have any questions, please
contact
Post by Shlomi Fish
Post by John Bennett
John Bennett
Director of Security, Wikimedia Foundation
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Password_strength_requirements
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ChangePassword
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Gabriel Thullen
2018-05-07 16:03:48 UTC
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The main reason we have virus outbreaks is the way a lot of users click on
email attachments and on programs they have just downloaded from the net.
Users are warned time and time again, but they do it anyway. Once we get a
large enough base of desktop linux users, we will have the same problems.

We are safe for now...
"Imagine a world, where all windows installations have turned off their
antivirus protection"!
Regards,
Thyge
Post by Shlomi Fish
Hi Gabriel,
On Mon, 7 May 2018 14:02:44 +0100
I am also a Linux advocate, and have been so for years (decades?). That
been said, I imagine that there are still more people using Windows XP
than
there are people using Linux. Last time I checked (october 2017) it was
something like 5% using XP and less than 1% using linux, all distros
included. We can safely predict that virus outvreaks will be a problem
for
linux once it reaches 5% or 10% market share...
Most linux viruses have never outbroke and never caused much harm. Linux can be
susceptible to other forms of malware such as worms or rootkits, but it hasyet
to exhibit a large scale virus epidemic and it isnt because it wasn't tried.
Linux is an attractive target because many servers run on it. See also
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=linux+viruses&ia=web
Regards,
Shlomi
Gabe
On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 1:51 PM, Shabab Mustafa <
I have been a Linux advocate for almost a decade now and from 'my
past
Post by Shlomi Fish
experience', I can tell you have opened a topic of a huge discussion
about
people should switch to Linux Desktops (which is off-topic here).
But I
Post by Shlomi Fish
respectfully disagree with your statement, "anti-virus programs
usually do
more harm than good".
From a conservative viewpoint, some protection is still better to
have
Post by Shlomi Fish
than
no protection at all. And the example you gave here, an anti-virus
mistakenly classified your domain as a potential threat, makes a
weaker
Post by Shlomi Fish
point. By a few mistakes, we cannot cancel out a million of other
successes. A false alarm is yet favourable than no alarm at all.
---
Shabab Mustafa
President
Wikimedia Bangladesh

Post by Shlomi Fish
On Thu, 3 May 2018 19:27:16 -0500
Post by John Bennett
Hello,
Many of you may have been receiving emails in the last 24 hours
warning
you
Post by John Bennett
of "Multiple failed attempts to log in" with your account. I
wanted to
Post by Shlomi Fish
let
Post by John Bennett
you know that the Wikimedia Foundation's Security team is aware
of
Post by Shlomi Fish
the
Post by Shlomi Fish
Post by John Bennett
situation, and working with others in the organization on steps
to
Post by Shlomi Fish
decrease
Post by John Bennett
the success of attacks like these.
The exact source is not yet known, but it is not originating from
our
Post by Shlomi Fish
Post by John Bennett
systems. That means it is an external effort to gain unauthorized
access
Post by Shlomi Fish
to
Post by John Bennett
random accounts. These types of efforts are increasingly common
for
Post by Shlomi Fish
Post by Shlomi Fish
Post by John Bennett
websites of our reach. A vast majority of these attempts have
been
Post by Shlomi Fish
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unsuccessful, and we are reaching out personally to the small
number of
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accounts which we believe have been compromised.
While we are constantly looking at improvements to our security
systems
and
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processes to offset the impact of malicious efforts such as
these,
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the
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best
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method of prevention continues to be the steps each of you take
to
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safeguard your accounts. Because of this, we have taken steps in
the
past
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to support things like stronger password requirements,[1] and we
continue
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to encourage everyone to take some routine steps to maintain a
secure
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computer and account. That includes regularly changing your
passwords,[2]
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actively running antivirus software on your systems, and keeping
your
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system software up to date.
From my experience, anti-virus programs usually do more harm than
good.
For
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example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_AntiVirus recently
blocked
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my
entire shlomifish.org domain because it apparently misclassified
an
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executable
download as problematic (and it was built from source using
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMake and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppVeyor
so it is unlikely that that is the case.). MS Windows' poor
resistance to
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malware and the fact that Windows Update is so dysfunctional (see
http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/bits/facts/Windows-Update/ ) are
the
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reasons
why I cannot recommend running it as a desktop, and instead one
should
use
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux#Desktop - desktop linux or
similar.
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A little off topic perhaps, but needs to be said.
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My team will continue to investigate this incident, and report
back if
we
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notice any concerning changes. If you have any questions, please
contact
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John Bennett
Director of Security, Wikimedia Foundation
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Password_strength_
requirements
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[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ChangePassword
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